[swift-evolution] [Idea] Use optionals for non-optional parameters

Xiaodi Wu xiaodi.wu at gmail.com
Mon Aug 15 14:27:12 CDT 2016


On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Haravikk via swift-evolution <
swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:

>
> On 15 Aug 2016, at 13:44, Tim Vermeulen <tvermeulen at me.com> wrote:
>
> On 15 Aug 2016, at 08:02, Justin Jia via swift-evolution<swift-
> evolution at swift.org(mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org
> <swift-evolution at swift.org>)>wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I don’t know if this has came up before. I tried to search though the
> mailing list but didn’t find any related threads.
>
> This is purely a syntactic thing (which I know it’s the lowest priority
> for Swift 4), but I think it’s an important one.
>
> Let’s say we have a struct with a function:
>
> ```
> struct Foo {
> func bar(x: Int)
> }
> ```
>
> We can use optionals:
>
> ```
> let foo: Foo? = nil
> let x = 1
> foo!.bar(x: x) // Able to compile, but will cause runtime error
> foo?.bar(x: x) // Able to compile, and won't cause runtime error
> ```
>
> However:
>
> ```
> let foo = Foo()
> let x: Int? = nil
> foo.bar(x: x!) // Able to compile, but will cause runtime error
> foo.bar(x: x?) // Won't compile
> ```
>
> I propose that we should allow `foo.bar(x: x?)`, which should be
> equivalent to:
>
> ```
> if let x = x {
> foo.bar(x: x)
> }
> ```
>
> What do you think?
>
> I like the intent behind this, but personally I think it's not clear
> enough. For me, putting the statement in a conditional as you've shown is
> the better solution, as it's a lot clearer exactly what's going on. Putting
> a question mark on a variable makes it look like something specific to that
> variable, rather than preventing the entire statement from executing.
>
>
> I get where you’re coming from, but how would people react if optional
> chaining wasn’t in the language yet and someone proposed it now? I know
> it’s not strictly the same thing, but it’s still a single question mark
> that prevents the whole statement from being executed. I think it would be
> met with a lot of resistance from people saying that being more explicit
> with `if let` is the way to go.
>
>
> True, but with optional chaining the position of the question mark makes
> it a lot more clear where it stops, whereas in this proposal the question
> mark seems a bit less intuitive since it's within the parenthesis yet
> affecting the statement outside of it.
>
> There may be some alternatives though, for example, what about a shorthand
> for the conditional like so:
>
> if let x? { foo.bar(x: x) }
> if x? { foo.bar(x: x) } // even shorter?
>
>
> The alternatives you’ve come up with would only work if foo.bar doesn’t
> return anything. If it does return something, and you want to assign it to
> a variable, you have to declare the variable beforehand and it just becomes
> ugly. It’s then probably a better idea to use map/flatmap:
>
>
> Hmm, what about something involving the where keyword? Something like:
>
> let value = foo.bar(x: x) where x?
>
>
> Some people have queried the ability to use where in assignments before,
> as another way to have a statement be nil if a condition isn't met, but in
> this case the condition is that x is unwrapped (thus valid for the call).
> This basically lets you use it like a "retroactive" conditional, it'd be
> nice to get the same x? behaviour on for loops anyway (letting you unwrap
> values that way, and maybe test them too).
>

`let value = (x == nil) ? nil : foo.bar(x: x)` isn't so bad, is it? You
could even write a custom operator to sugar it.


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