[swift-evolution] [swift-evolution-announce] [Accepted with Revision] SE-0177: Allow distinguishing between public access and public overridability

Xiaodi Wu xiaodi.wu at gmail.com
Thu Jul 28 01:27:29 CDT 2016

Right. So IIUC, what you called a serious testability issue earlier in the
thread (inadvertent open inside public) is no more and no less an issue
with @testable than inadvertent sealed inside open (in that neither would
be picked up during such testing), and proper black box testing is what you
need to verify that the public API contract is as you intend it to be.
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 01:15 David Owens II <david at owensd.io> wrote:

> On Jul 27, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Xiaodi Wu <xiaodi.wu at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 10:30 PM, David Owens II via swift-evolution <
> swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>> > On Jul 27, 2016, at 7:18 PM, John McCall <rjmccall at apple.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Jul 27, 2016, at 6:55 PM, David Owens II via swift-evolution <
>> swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes, it’s per file. It’s also added in the initial template that Xcode
>> creates with your project. In addition, it’s recommended by many that talk
>> about “how to unit test in Swift.” So, to someone that is not paying
>> scrupulous attention, there is no mechanism to prevent against this today.
>> >
>> > Perhaps we're not doing a good job of messaging this.
>> >
>> > The Xcode template is the way it is because @testable imports are the
>> right default for a *program* written in Swift.  A lot of the code in an
>> application or command-line program isn't really suitable for independent,
>> in-process black-box testing, because it isn't really presenting an
>> integrated API.  If you break it down into components that can be
>> independently tested, that's awesome, and at that point you can switch the
>> imports in your tests over to non- at testable.  But we don't want the test
>> template to create any obstacles to testing, because as you say, people
>> already don't write enough tests.
>> My primary concern is that it’s easy to think you’ve done the right thing
>> and push out a release because all of your testing shows it’s good, only to
>> find you messed up in a way that it’s easy for a tool to validate. Writing
>> new code is probably not going to be the primary source of this, but
>> refactoring a `public` class to an `open` one, where there are already
>> existing tests for that class, probably in a single file and using
>> `@testable`, it’s easy to say, “looks good, tests passed, integrations look
>> good.”
> If you're refactoring `public` classes into `open` ones, though, you'd be
> more likely to have forgotten to open a method you intend to make
> overridable, no? And there's no way to change the rules here to have
> `@testable` pick that up…
> Yes, `@testable` does exactly that. It basically treats the imported
> module as being part of the module it’s being imported into and gives the
> type all of the same access levels. So I’d be able to override a method
> that is *not* marked as open with no issues.
> I see nothing in the proposal that restricts a class within the same
> module from subclassing and overriding `public` methods within the *same*
> module that it’s defined in.
> So you need to have test cases that have *no* `@testable import
> ModuleToTest` to ensure the API contracts are being tested well. This is
> John’s point, that proper public API (e.g. “black box”) test cases would
> alleviate this issue from happening.
> -David
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