[swift-evolution] [Draft][Proposal] Formalized Ordering

Xiaodi Wu xiaodi.wu at gmail.com
Thu Jul 21 22:24:49 CDT 2016


On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Jose Cheyo Jimenez via swift-evolution <
swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:

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> On Jul 21, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Duan via swift-evolution <
> swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
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> Great proposal. I want to second that areSame may mislead user to think
> this is about identity.
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> I like areEquivalent() but there may be better names.
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> what about areEqual() ?
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As Robert mentioned above, the point here is explicitly to distinguish
equivalence from equality.


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> Daniel Duan
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 21, 2016, at 6:32 PM, Robert Widmann via swift-evolution <
> swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
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> On Jul 21, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Xiaodi Wu <xiaodi.wu at gmail.com> wrote:
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> This is nice. Is `areSame()` being proposed because static `==` is the
> status quo and you're trying to make the point that `==` in the future need
> not guarantee the same semantics?
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> Yep!  Equivalence and equality are strictly very different things.
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> Nit: I think the more common term in stdlib would be `areEquivalent()`. Do
> you think `same` in that context (independent of the word "ordering") might
> erroneously suggest identity?
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> There is room for improvement here.  Keep ‘em coming.
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> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Robert Widmann via swift-evolution <
> swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
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>> Hello Swift Community,
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>> Harlan Haskins, Jaden Geller, and I have been working on a proposal to
>> clean up the semantics of ordering relations in the standard library.  We
>> have a draft that you can get as a gist.
>> <https://gist.github.com/CodaFi/f0347bd37f1c407bf7ea0c429ead380e>  Any
>> feedback you might have about this proposal helps - though please keeps
>> your comments on Swift-Evolution and not on the gist.
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>> Cheers,
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>> ~Robert Widmann
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