[swift-evolution] [Review] SE-0117: Default classes to be non-subclassable publicly

L. Mihalkovic laurent.mihalkovic at gmail.com
Mon Jul 11 05:44:27 CDT 2016

(From mobile)

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Tino Heth via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>> With the existence of Swift on the server, dynamically linked, independently distributed frameworks will not be an Apple-only issue - this extends beyond Apple's OS X-based platforms towards how dynamic frameworks link against each other as if they are to be distributed separately.
>> It is short sighted to suggest that all Swift deployments will be under Apple's control.
> I'm really looking forward for server-side Swift — I'm planning for years to extend my portfolio in that direction, and Swift could really push that diversification.
> But I had a concrete reason for interest in writing my own backend-code:
> Server-side was imho broken on large scale, and it still isn't fixed yet… I can run circles around those poor Java-developers who have to fight crusted structures and deal with sluggish tools like Maven and Tomcat (and Java ;-).*

You do realize that then itunes store used to (i don't know hese days) for many years run on java, despite objc being such a more advanced environment. ;-)

> It seems to me I'm not alone with my opinion, because there are already alternatives on the rise:
> Look at Docker — it's a huge success, because it not only takes application and libraries to build a robust unit; it even includes a whole OS!
> On iOS, it already hurts when you have a bunch of Swift-Apps which all have the stdlib bundled — but on the server, this doesn't matter, and I'm convinced it would be a bad move to propagate shared frameworks.
> - Tino
> * of course, there are agile alternatives — but in my environment, most of the big players wouldn't even consider something like Rails
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