[swift-evolution] [Review] SE-0116: Import Objective-C id as Swift Any type

Ben Langmuir blangmuir at apple.com
Fri Jul 8 13:19:07 CDT 2016


Hey Joe,

I’m +1 on the overall direction, but I have some questions/concerns about the "Ambivalent dynamic casting from Any” section.

1) When you suggest that `x as String` succeeds but `x as NSString` fails, I assume this would only be true *after* SE-0083, since otherwise we’d be violating transitivity of `as` casts?

2) Have you considered the only allowing `as` casts to the bridged type (e.g. String) for values coming from `id` at the language level, but providing some guaranteed optimization that if you immediately convert to the ObjC class type (ie. NSString(x as! String)) we give zero-cost round-tripping? Would that be detectable?  I think making `value as? NSFoo` fail or succeed depending on whether the value came from ObjC  will be a source of subtle bugs.  What if I have multiple sources of values - some from ObjC, some from Swift - and stuff them into an [Any].

Ben

> On Jul 5, 2016, at 8:45 AM, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
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> Hello Swift community,
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> The review of "SE-0116: Import Objective-C id as Swift Any type" begins now and runs through July 11. The proposal is available here:
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