[swift-evolution] [Review] SE-0115: Rename Literal Syntax Protocols

[Anders Ha]

> On 3 Jul 2016, at 3:53 AM, Dave Abrahams via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> on Sat Jul 02 2016, Riley Testut <rileytestut-AT-gmail.com <http://rileytestut-at-gmail.com/>> wrote:
> 
>> (My bad, accidentally hit send too early). 
>> 
>> That, or we could keep either the Convert or Express forms with
>> "IntegerLiteralConverting" or "IntegerLiteralExpressing". And if we
>> decide "express" really is the best word to describe what happens, I
>> personally prefer "IntegerLiteralExpressing" to
>> "ExpressibleAsIntegerLiteral", which doesn't feel at home with the
>> other Swift protocol names.
> 
> It doesn't matter if it “feels at home” if it has the wrong meaning.
> It's not that Integer can express an integer literal; It's that an
> integer literal can express an Integer.

If "IntegerLiteralExpressing" describes the expressibility of a type as integer literals, "IntegerLiteralAccepting" would probably be the one describing the ability of a type to accept a integer literal.

> 
> When naming, we need to learn to stop treating the comfortable ring of
> familiar word patterns as an arbiter of success.
> 
>> 
>> Riley
>> 
>>> On Jul 2, 2016, at 10:49 AM, Riley Testut <rileytestut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I kinda agree that these names still aren't the best. FWIW, I much
>>> preferred the originals, even if they could be misleading.
>>> 
>>> What if we changed the names to be verbs instead of adjectives? Something like "IntegerLiteralTransforming"?
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 2, 2016, at 10:35 AM, Dave Abrahams via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> on Sat Jul 02 2016, Anton Zhilin <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> -1 from me. I suggest to wait until we get generic protocols
>>>>> in Swift 4, then we can use the following:
>>>>> 
>>>>> protocol From<T> {
>>>>>  init(_ from: T)
>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> And deprecate all the weird Convertibles.
>>>> 
>>>> Even if we could do that, “From” would never be an appropriate name for
>>>> the ability to express a type as a particular kind of literal.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
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