[swift-evolution] [Proposal Draft] Literal Syntax Protocols
Dave Abrahams
dabrahams at apple.com
Wed Jun 29 01:45:01 CDT 2016
on Tue Jun 28 2016, Sean Heber <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> Arg. Dang it!
>
> Syntax.ExpressibleAsIntegerLiteral
+1
IMO it's not possible to improve on that one.
> Syntax.FromIntegerLiteral
> Syntax.IntegerLiteralManifestation
> Syntax.GhostOfIntegerLiteral
> Syntax.FormerlyKnownAsIntegerLiteral
>
> l8r
> Sean
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Erica Sadun <erica at ericasadun.com> wrote:
>
>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 9:21 PM, Sean Heber <sean at fifthace.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> IntegerLiteralExpressable?
>>>
>>> Does Apple employ any philosophers? We might need one...
>>>
>>> l8r
>>> Sean
>>>
>>
>> Aaaaaand...welcome to last night.
>>
>> The problem being, that people see this and think that the type can be
>> expressed as an integer literal, not that an integer literal can be expressing
>> the type. (I won't even bring up other associations for that word since
>> most of the subscribers of this mailing list have not been nursing mothers
>> although some may be familiar with the technique.)
>>
>> -- E
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:02 PM, Erica Sadun <erica at ericasadun.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 8:08 PM, Sean Heber <sean at fifthace.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What about..
>>>>>
>>>>> Syntax.ConvertibleFromIntegerLiteral
>>>>> etc..
>>>>
>>>> I like it but Dave has already expressed that this isn't conversion. This
>>>> is something distinct, magical, and more importantly, ineffable.
>>>>
>>>> He says it means an instance of the type can be written as a literal, and
>>>> not converted from a literal. He writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Conformance to this protocol does *not* mean you can initialize the type with
>>>>> a literal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Proof:
>>>>>
>>>>> func f<T: IntegerLiteralConvertible>() -> T {
>>>>> return T(integerLiteral: 43) // Error
>>>>> return T(43) // Also an Error
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> It means an instance of the type can be *written* as a literal:
>>>>>
>>>>> func f<T: IntegerLiteralConvertible>() -> T {
>>>>> return 43 // OK
>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So we're looking at something more like:
>>>>
>>>> Syntax.AnIntegerLiteralCanBeSubstitutedForThisTypeAndTheCompilerWillNotBarf
>>>>
>>>> -- E
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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