[swift-evolution] Prohibit invisible characters in identifier names
Vladimir.S
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Fri Jun 24 08:27:24 CDT 2016
On 24.06.2016 0:57, João Pinheiro via swift-evolution wrote:
> Indeed, the case shown in Josh's example was the motivation for this thread
> and will be solved by the proposal.
>
> The current discussion has been around whether it should be solved by
> ignoring invisible characters or prohibiting them and explicitly
> highlighting them as an error. I originally proposed prohibiting them and
> was convinced into thinking that ignoring them would suffice. Upon further
> reading of the unicode normalisation and security documents, I agree that
> prohibiting them outside of the situations described in UAX #31 is the best
> and safest choice.
I do believe the *safest* variant should be chosen as, actually, do we see
lot of sources with unicode identifiers? I believe very small percent in
real code. IMO At first we should protect Swift from problems with unicode
identifiers, and only after this support as much unicode as we can.
(Personally I really don't understand why we need anything than ASCII codes
for identifiers. This could solve all the problems with invisible
space/left-to-right-flags/complicated rules/graphemes etc. But someone
needs to be able to put dog emoji as identifiers.. well.. OK)
>
> Sincerely,
> João Pinheiro
>
>
>> On 23 Jun 2016, at 21:45, Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution
>> <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Let me correct myself: what I think Josh's example is should be corrected
>> whether we prohibit or ignore. However, since no one can see the
>> invisible characters he used, I can't say for sure.
>>
>> If he found a clever way to reorder or change spacing between letters
>> (e.g. superimpose two characters so that "var11" looks like "var1"), then
>> the problem can only be fixed by prohibition.
>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 15:36 James Hillhouse <jdhillhouse4 at icloud.com
>> <mailto:jdhillhouse4 at icloud.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Xiaodi. That’s a relief to know.
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 23, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Xiaodi Wu <xiaodi.wu at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:xiaodi.wu at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> FWIW, Josh's example would be fixed whether we prohibit or ignore
>>> invisible characters, but there are other potential strings for
>>> which prohibition would be more secure.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 15:27 James Hillhouse
>>> <jdhillhouse4 at icloud.com <mailto:jdhillhouse4 at icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1 on this. Josh Wisenbaker’s example says enough. Yikes!
>>>
>>>> On Jun 23, 2016, at 3:18 PM, David Sweeris via swift-evolution
>>>> <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>> I didn't even know there were any invisible characters until
>>>> this thread came up.
>>>>
>>>> - Dave Sweeris
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 23, 2016, at 15:13, Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution
>>>> <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 2:54 PM, João Pinheiro
>>>>> <joao at joaopinheiro.org <mailto:joao at joaopinheiro.org>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > On 23 Jun 2016, at 20:43, Xiaodi Wu <xiaodi.wu at gmail.com <mailto:xiaodi.wu at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> > That's cool, although my preferred solution would be more closely aligned with UAX #31: overtly disallow the glyphs in Table 4 (instead of ignoring them) except in the specific scenarios for ZWJ and ZWNJ identified in UAX #31, then afterwards internally represent the identifier as its NFC-normalized string.
>>>>>
>>>>> Explicitly disallowing them was my initial idea, but I
>>>>> think it would end up being a confusing error for users to
>>>>> encounter. Ignoring the invisible characters and leaving
>>>>> it up to a linter to remove them is less likely to cause
>>>>> confusion for users.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll be sure to describe the alternative of explicitly
>>>>> prohibiting them in the proposal though.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would strongly urge you to propose explicitly prohibiting
>>>>> them just as UAX #31 recommends. Their reasoning is that these
>>>>> characters, which include those that reverse text direction or
>>>>> control joining, can cause one identifier to be maliciously
>>>>> changed to look like another. If you ignore these characters
>>>>> instead of prohibiting them, an identifier that visually
>>>>> appears as one string could in fact be a different one to the
>>>>> compiler.
>>>>>
>>>>> Moreover, a compiler error can be made helpful by saying that
>>>>> the offending character is potentially invisible and it can
>>>>> come with a fix-it to remove the offending character. I don't
>>>>> think that would confuse the user at all. It would be more
>>>>> confusing if invisible characters that caused one thing to
>>>>> look identical to another were silently permitted.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> João Pinheiro
>>>>>
>>>>>
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