[swift-evolution] [Returned for revision] SE-0089: Renaming String.init<T>(_: T)
plx
plxswift at icloud.com
Fri May 27 10:04:18 CDT 2016
I like the design strategy, but I’m having a hard time seeing the value of `ValuePreservingStringConvertible`; it’d be easier to evaluate the need for it with some concrete examples of types with `description` implementations that:
- aren’t value-preserving
- would cause problems if mistakenly-classified as value-preserving
Relatedly, here are some concrete `description`/`debugDescription` pairs; would these `description`s be value-preserving or not?
- a `Wavelength` type
- description: “650.0 nm”
- debugDescription: “Wavelength(nanometers: 650.0)”
- an `Angle` type:
- description: “90.0°”
- debugDescription: “Angle(πUnits: 0.5)”
…(note that neither type has a corresponding `init?(_ string: String)` implementation, and I don’t plan to add one either).
I’m just having trouble coming up with realistic non-value-preserving descriptions that’d be *problematic* (as opposed to just, say, unhelpful).
> On May 26, 2016, at 12:08 AM, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
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> Proposal Link: https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0089-rename-string-reflection-init.md
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> The review of "SE-0089: Renaming String.init<T>(_: T)" ran from May 17…23, 2016. The proposal has been *returned for revision* and another round of discussion - the core team would love to see the revised proposal make it into Swift 3.
>
> The community and core team both want to remove this “footgun” from the standard library, where someone could write "String(x)” with the intention of getting a value-preserving conversion to String, but may instead get a potentially lossy and potentially expensive reflection-based conversion to a String. After extensive discussion, the core team recommends that the community consider a somewhat more elaborate design:
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> - Rename the existing reflection-based "String.init<T>(_: T)” initializer to "String.init<T>(describing: T)” as recommend by the community. This initializer would rarely be invoked in user code directly.
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> - Introduce a new protocol (for sake of discussion, call it “ValuePreservingStringConvertible") that refines CustomStringConvertible but that adds no new requirements. Conformance to this protocol indicates that the “description” requirement produces a value-preserving representation in String form.
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> - Introduce a new unlabeled initializer on String: "init<T: ValuePreservingStringConvertible>(_ v: T) { return v.description }". This permits the “String(x)” syntax to be used on all values of types that can be converted to string in a value-preserving way.
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> - Audit important standard library types (e.g. the integer and floating point types), and make them explicitly conform to ValuePreservingStringConvertible with an explicitly implemented “description” property.
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> - As a performance optimization, change the implementation of the string literal interpolation syntax to prefer the unlabeled initializer when interpolating a type that is ValuePreservingStringConvertible or that has otherwise has an unlabeled String initializer, but use the "String.init<T>(describing: T)” initializer if not.
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> The expected advantages of this design are:
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> - Swift encourages the T(x) syntax for value preserving conversions, and this design ensures that String(x) continues to work for the value preserving cases.
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> - This ensures that the String(x) syntax does not accidentally fall off a performance cliff by using the extremely-dynamic reflection mechanism unintentionally.
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> - The preferred “I don’t care how you do it, just convert this value to a string somehow” syntax remains string interpolation syntax. This syntax is efficient in the cases where the String(x) syntax is allowed, but fully general to the other cases where custom convert-to-string code has not been provided.
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> Some remaining open questions:
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> - Exactly what types should conform to ValuePreservingStringConvertible. It seems clear that integer, floating point types, and Character can and should conform. What other types should?
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> - Do we need the ValuePreservingStringConvertible at all, or is the existing CustomStringConvertible enough? We already have a few protocols for handling string convertibility, it would be great to avoid adding another one.
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> Thank you to Austin Zheng for driving this proposal forward!
>
> -Chris Lattner
> Review Manager
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