[swift-evolution] [Pitch] Rename `AnyObject` to `AnyClass` and drop current `AnyClass`
Matthew Johnson
matthew at anandabits.com
Sun May 22 23:06:10 CDT 2016
> On May 22, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Dave Abrahams via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>
>
> on Sun May 22 2016, Matthew Johnson <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>> wrote:
>
>>> On May 22, 2016, at 1:23 PM, Dave Abrahams via swift-evolution
>>> <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> on Fri May 20 2016, Matthew Johnson
>>> <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>
>>> <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On May 20, 2016, at 7:40 PM, Brent Royal-Gordon via
>>>>> swift-evolution
>>>>> <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Any-class requirement could replace the current `AnyObject`
>>>>>> protocol with a typealias like this: `typealias AnyObject =
>>>>>> Any<class>`
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assume Swift would introduce Any-struct and Any-enum requirement
>>>>>> one day. How would one name a typealias for these, where `AnyClass`
>>>>>> means `AnyObject.Type`?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suggest we drop the current `AnyClass` and rename `AnyObject` to
>>>>>> `AnyClass`. If one would need the old `AnyClass` behavior it will
>>>>>> become `AnyClass.Type`.
>>>>>
>>>>> I propose that we deprecate `AnyObject` in favor of `Any<class>`. No
>>>>> typealias, just directly using `Any<>`. We would also deprecate
>>>>> `AnyClass` in favor of `Any<class>.Type`. (Presumably we would do
>>>>> this by providing `AnyObject` and `AnyClass` typealiases in Swift 3,
>>>>> but marking them as deprecated.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I like this approach because it exposes people to `Any<>` and more
>>>>> quickly gets them to see how it's connected to a protocol
>>>>> declaration's conformance list. They might then guess that `Any<>`
>>>>> has other capabilities from that list, like the ability to handle
>>>>> multiple protocols.
>>>>>
>>>>>> In the future we could have typealiases like this, which are more clear:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> `typealias AnyClass = Any<class>`
>>>>>> `typealias AnyStruct = Any<struct>`
>>>>>> `typealias AnyEnum = Any<enum>`
>>>>>
>>>>> Even in the long term, I don't see any good reason to support
>>>>> `Any<struct>` vs. `Any<enum>`. There is no semantic distinction*
>>>>> between a struct and an enum; you can always implement something
>>>>> enum-y using a struct with a mode field, or something struct-y using
>>>>> an enum with associated values. `Bool`, for instance, was once an
>>>>> enum and was changed to a struct for implementation reasons; this
>>>>> change made no difference to how it was used.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, there *is* a semantic distinction between struct/enum and
>>>>> class—one is a value type, the other is a reference type. To support
>>>>> that distinction, it might make sense to support an `Any<value>` or
>>>>> `Any<!class>` syntax. Again, I would prefer to use the raw `Any<>`
>>>>> syntax, though, not a typealias.
>>>>
>>>> You can implement reference types with value semantics and value types
>>>> with reference semantics. Until the compiler can verify value
>>>> semantics I am not sure there is a benefit to `any<value>`. The
>>>> semantic distinction is what is important. There has been discussion
>>>> about strengthening the “value type == value semantics” and “reference
>>>> type == reference semantics” relations but that hasn’t yet moved
>>>> beyond talk.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (I've read the arguments about pure vs. non-pure value type
>>>>> conformances and I'm not convinced. It is always possible to
>>>>> nominally "conform" to a protocol in a way that actually undermines
>>>>> its guarantees; for example, you could implement
>>>>> `RangeReplaceableCollection.remove(at:)` as a no-op. The compiler
>>>>> cannot reject all invalid conformances; it can only reject ones
>>>>> which it can trivially show are invalid, because for instance they
>>>>> do not even attempt to provide a required method. Similarly, the
>>>>> compiler may not be able to prove you are providing value semantics,
>>>>> but it *can* reject conformances of reference types to a protocol
>>>>> requiring value semantics, since those cannot possibly be valid
>>>>> conformances.
>>>>
>>>> Immutable reference types actually *can* provide valid value semantics
>>>> (at least as long as as they can provide their own implementation of
>>>> `==` which I believe Dave A is arguing against).
>>>
>>> I am not making a strong argument against that, though it might be
>>> reasonable. I am mostly arguing in favor of a default definition of ==
>>> for all reference types that is equivalent to ===.
>>
>> Sorry I misunderstood. To make sure I understand clearly: you’re not
>> arguing against reference types with value semantics, just that we
>> should allow reference semantics to be assumed unless custom equality
>> is implemented. Is that correct?
>
> I don't view an immutable class with custom equality as problematic in
> principle, but if dropping that capability would allow us to simplify
> the programming model, I would do so in a heartbeat. I haven't had the
> chance to consider all the implications yet, but—at least until someone
> can demonstrate that we really custom == for classes—we should be open
> to the idea as we consider the value semantics story.
I agree that we should be open to this idea.
As we discussed previously, I would like to see some additional features around value types that would reduce or eliminate the reasons people might want to write immutable / value semantic classes introduced before we make a change like this. But if it turns out to be the right long term decision and we can’t wait that long we should go ahead with it anyway.
>
> --
> -Dave
>
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