[swift-evolution] [Discussion] Namespaces

Brandon Knope bknope at me.com
Fri May 20 11:09:24 CDT 2016


I'm pretty sure he meant "cross dependencies"

Brandon 

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> On May 20, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Matthew Johnson via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
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>> On May 20, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Adrian Zubarev via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
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>> Can submodules enforce the developer to use its name ’Submodule.SomeClass’?
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> Ideally we would have flexible import syntax that allows for control over *how* names are imported into a lexical context (including the ability to import names within a very specific scope if desired).
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>> Do I have to re-build submodules when I made any changes to them before building the outside code base?
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> All submodules are part of the same target as the module that contains them.
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>> Can they efficiently used for cross decencies between different modules/submodules?
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> Cross decencies?  I don’t understand.
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>> —— 
>> Empty enums is an abuse of the language! 
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> But it is a practical and effective one.  Introducing a new construct like namespaces must carry significant advantages over what is already possible.
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>> Adrian Zubarev
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>> Am 20. Mai 2016 bei 17:49:29, Matthew Johnson via swift-evolution (swift-evolution at swift.org) schrieb:
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>>> > On May 20, 2016, at 10:43 AM, Robert Schwalbe via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
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>>> >> Anyway, I'm +1 for namespaces everywhere, some names can be common. For example Node could be related to trees, physics engines and all sorts of constructs. "Node" may be a perfectly fine name for these. That said, these are sometimes tied to specific types in which case nesting them may make more sense, which I believe is already being addressed (currently we can't nest generic types)? It's certainly not as simple as it can appear!
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>>> > Absolutely +1 for namespaces.
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>>> > Even if you despise the concept of namespaces that seems like that can be addressed by a project and/or company style guide that explicitly forbids their use.
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>>> > For the people/projects that would embrace namespaces, namespaces would be a godsend.
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>>> > Sure, you can probably pull all kind of stunts to simulate namespaces, but besides creating additional work for the Swift team (and I do not say nor take that lightly), they really need to be supported and implemented at the language/syntax level for first class citizenry.
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>>> What benefit do namespaces provide that submodules would not?
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