[swift-evolution] Should we rename "class" when referring to protocol conformance?
Matthew Johnson
matthew at anandabits.com
Sat May 7 23:11:40 CDT 2016
> On May 7, 2016, at 3:53 PM, Dave Abrahams <dabrahams at apple.com> wrote:
>
>
> on Sat May 07 2016, Matthew Johnson <matthew-AT-anandabits.com> wrote:
>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 7, 2016, at 2:21 AM, Andrew Trick via swift-evolution
>> <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>>
>> On May 6, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Dave Abrahams via swift-evolution
>> <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>>
>> I don’t mean to imply that it is the *only* valuable
>> property. However, it I (and many others) do believe it is an
>> extremely valuable
>> property in many cases. Do you disagree?
>>
>> I think I do. What is valuable about such a protocol? What generic
>> algorithms could you write that work on models of PureValue but don't
>> work just as well on Array<Int>?
>>
>> class Storage {
>> var element: Int = 0
>> }
>>
>> struct Value {
>> var storage: Storage
>> }
>>
>> func amIPure(v: Value) -> Int {
>> v.storage.element = 3
>> return v.storage.element
>> }
>>
>> I (the optimizer) want to know if 'amIPure' is a pure function. The
>> developer needs to tell me where the boundaries of the value lie. Does
>> 'storage' lie inside the Value, or outside? If it is inside, then Value is a
>> 'PureValue' and 'amIPure' is a pure function. To enforce that, the developer
>> will need to implement CoW, or we need add some language features.
>>
>> Thank you for this clear exposition of how PureValue relates to pure functions.
>> This is the exact intuition I have about it but you have stated it much more
>> clearly.
>>
>> Language features to help automate CoW would be great. It would eliminate
>> boilerplate, but more importantly it would likely provide more information to
>> the compiler.
>
> Whoa; Andy never suggested this would help automate CoW. Are you
> suggesting that? How would it work?
Quoting Andy:
"I (the optimizer) want to know if 'amIPure' is a pure function. The developer needs to tell me where the boundaries of the value lie. Does 'storage' lie inside the Value, or outside? If it is inside, then Value is a 'PureValue' and 'amIPure' is a pure function. To enforce that, the developer will need to implement CoW, or we need add some language features."
I was referring to new language features that eliminate the need for the developer to implement CoW manually while preserving the same semantics.
I don’t know about the general case, but in simple cases I can imagine a feature such as “indirect struct” or Box<T: ValueType> which would contain a reference to a struct on the heap. Any time a mutating operation was performed on a non-uniquely referenced struct it would be copied first and the internal reference updated to point to the new copy on the heap. This is the kind of thing I had in mind when I said “automating CoW”.
>
> --
> -Dave
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