[swift-evolution] [META] Re: Mailman?

Keith Smiley keithbsmiley at gmail.com
Tue Apr 5 00:09:28 CDT 2016 

This can be done by setting up a single server pointing to news.gmane.org. Then
you can search for the swift lists and right click to subscribe.

--
Keith Smiley

On 04/02, Ilya Belenkiy wrote:
> Hi Keith,
>
> can you give some more details on how to do this? I'd love to use Unison
> for this, but I have no idea how to set this up. Any help is greatly
> appreciated.
>
> --
> Ilya
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:47 PM Keith Smiley via swift-evolution <
> swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>
> > For those who are just interested in getting these conversations out of
> > their
> > email in the meantime, you can use the nntp bridge at
> >
> > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.swift.evolution/
> >
> > Along with Panic's retired Unison app
> >
> > https://panic.com/blog/the-future-of-unison/
> >
> > As a pretty good GUI for this.
> >
> > --
> > Keith Smiley
> >
> > On 03/09, James Campbell via swift-evolution wrote:
> > > They are listening but they keep saying they don't have the resources.
> > So I
> > > would encourage them to let the community give back and set something up
> > !
> > >
> > > *___________________________________*
> > >
> > > *James⎥Head of Trolls*
> > >
> > > *james at supmenow.com <james at supmenow.com>⎥supmenow.com <
> > http://supmenow.com>*
> > >
> > > *Sup*
> > >
> > > *Runway East *
> > >
> > > *10 Finsbury Square*
> > >
> > > *London*
> > >
> > > * EC2A 1AF *
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 6:28 PM, David Hart via swift-evolution <
> > > swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1000
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > On 09 Mar 2016, at 11:34, Adrian Kashivskyy via swift-evolution <
> > > > swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm a very big supporter of moving the discussions to a Discourse forum
> > > > installation. Here are my arguments:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >    1. *Subscribing to interesting threads*
> > > >    In the mailing list, it is not possible to subscribe to a thread
> > > >    unless the mail client supports it. In a forum, you can subscribe
> > to a
> > > >    thread and you may even turn on email notifications.
> > > >    2. *Muting uninteresting threads*
> > > >    Unless the mail client is supporting it (many don't) – it's not
> > > >    possible to mute a thread – all emails are equally important.
> > > >    3. *Searching*
> > > >    It is way easier to search an indexed forum like Discourse, than
> > > >    searching through 12k emails
> > > >    4. *Message formatting*
> > > >    We tend to include many code examples and formatted text in our
> > > >    messages. Some of us tend to create markdown files on the side and
> > then
> > > >    paste the generated HTML into an email body. Discourse supports
> > > >    mix-and-match of Markdown, HTML and BBEdit.
> > > >    5. *Tags*
> > > >    In the mailing list, most of us tend to include [tags] in the mail
> > > >    subjects, but some folks forget or ignore them. Discourse allows to
> > > >    predefine tags for the threads which improves indexing and
> > searching even
> > > >    more.
> > > >    6. *Pinned threads*
> > > >    Announcements of e.g. ongoing reviews may take a form of pinned
> > > >    threads so they are immediately visible to forum members.
> > > >    7. *The problem of replying to a thread with a changed subject*
> > > >    Sometimes users reply to threads but accidentally add a tag or a
> > > >    whitespace to the message subject. Most mail client interpret it as
> > a new
> > > >    thread and such a reply may be lost in the wild. Replies to
> > coherent forum
> > > >    threads are never lost, they're always in the right place.
> > > >    8. *Accessibility*
> > > >    Even if your mailing client allows all of the above features,
> > > >    sometimes it is needed to access the forums from a phone or on a
> > university
> > > >    computer, where many functionalities are blocked. Although it is
> > possible
> > > >    to access the webmail page in the browser, it is most often painful
> > to
> > > >    navigate through archives (especially on icloud.com ¯\_(ツ)_/¯).
> > When
> > > >    using Discourse, all above features are available everywhere.
> > > >    9. *Permanent links*
> > > >    To share a link to a Discourse discussion, you just copy it from the
> > > >    browser URL field. To share a link to a mailing list reply, you
> > need to
> > > >    open the web archive, find the topic manually and then copy the URL
> > from
> > > >    the browser field anyway.
> > > >    10. *Mentioning other users*
> > > >    In mailing list, this is achievable by including the target user in
> > a
> > > >    recipients list. In forum, you just @mention someone, just like in
> > GitHub
> > > >    issues.
> > > >    11. *Privacy*
> > > >    Some users don't want their private emails to be disclosed in a
> > > >    mailing list. In a forum like Discourse, you can choose whether
> > your email
> > > >    is displayed publicly or not.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I can actually go on and on with my points, but I very much hope that
> > the
> > > > above list is sufficient to start a serious discussion about migrating
> > to a
> > > > forum, like Discourse.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Adrian Kashivskyy
> > > >
> > > > Wiadomość napisana przez Fload via swift-evolution <
> > > > swift-evolution at swift.org> w dniu 06.03.2016, o godz. 23:46:
> > > >
> > > > Using Mail here, it works well for me! :)
> > > >
> > > > On Mar 6, 2016, at 9:31 PM, Kevin Lundberg via swift-evolution <
> > > > swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I wonder if some of the dislike for mailing lists here is due to people
> > > > using Mail.app on osx/ios to keep up with discussions. I find that
> > > > Thunderbird's mailing list handling is really nice (much better than
> > > > Mail.app), since it correctly shows replies as a tree so it's easy to
> > see
> > > > which messages reply to which at a glance.
> > > >
> > > > On 3/6/2016 12:54 PM, Goffredo Marocchi via swift-evolution wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Setting up a custom Google Wave service? ... *waits for laughter to die
> > > > down* it is actually open source and did its job well actually.
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > On 6 Mar 2016, at 17:35, Radosław Pietruszewski via swift-evolution <
> > > > swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have to admit that I’ve also gotten used to the current system,
> > however
> > > > archaic ;)
> > > >
> > > > I’d still be happy to move to a more modern system, but it’s not as
> > > > important to me as in the beginning.
> > > >
> > > > The only requirement, I think, for a lot of people, would be for the
> > new
> > > > system to still allow subscription and posting to go through email.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > — Radek
> > > >
> > > > On 05 Mar 2016, at 00:37, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution <
> > > > swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Speaking as someone who tries to observe trends in discussions, does a
> > lot
> > > > of search through her mail archives,
> > > > and uses gmane to capture permanent links, I've been very satisfied
> > with
> > > > the existing solution.
> > > >
> > > > I suspect that most of us happy users never get heard in this
> > discussion,
> > > > so I'm just putting this out there.
> > > >
> > > > -- Erica
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mar 4, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Jacob Bandes-Storch via swift-evolution <
> > > > <swift-evolution at swift.org>swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Friendly bump:
> > > >
> > > > Discourse is now free for open-source projects.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://blog.discourse.org/2016/03/free-discourse-forum-hosting-for-community-friendly-github-projects/
> > > >
> > > >
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