[swift-evolution] My personal beef with leading-dot syntax
Joe Groff
jgroff at apple.com
Mon Apr 4 13:48:37 CDT 2016
> On Apr 4, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Dave Abrahams <dabrahams at apple.com> wrote:
>
>
> on Mon Apr 04 2016, Joe Groff <jgroff-AT-apple.com> wrote:
>
>>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Dave Abrahams via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> on Mon Apr 04 2016, Erica Sadun <swift-evolution at swift.org> asked:
>>>
>>
>>>> Can you ping me off-list or in another thread and explain what the
>>>> issues are?
>>>
>>> All of the following make me uncomfortable with our leading-dot thang:
>>>
>>> * The rules for lookup don't seem obvious to me. I admit this is very
>>> personal/subjective.
>>>
>>> * There is some evidence that people think it means something it doesn't
>>> (“enum case”), as mentioned in SE-0036. That suggests it is a
>>> confusing feature. That confusion may be fairly harmless so far, but
>>> still.
>>>
>>> * The dot doesn't seem to buy enough to be worth the complexity it adds
>>> to the language; why not just let those names be looked up without the
>>> dot? You can always disambiguate with full qualification if you have
>>> to.
>>
>> Making every unqualified reference context-dependent would be
>> impractical. `foo.bar(bas)` would become an exponential search to find
>> a contextual type containing a `foo` which has a `bar` member that can
>> accept an type containing a `bas` member.
>
> I don't think I'm talking about making every unqualified reference
> context-dependent. When I have a context that demands an instance of a
> particular enum type, I think it's reasonable to look up the names in
> the enum without qualification, and I strongly question the value of
> leading-dot syntax for general static member lookup.
Therein lies the rub—*any* context an unqualified name can appear in could potentially demand an instance of a particular enum type, until the type checker rules that out. Limiting the behavior to enums doesn't simplify the implementation.
> I would normally
> never think of using it that way—because, guess what? I think of
> leading-dot as a notation for enums like everybody else does—and I don't
> think there are any important idioms it supports, that couldn't be
> equally well handled by something like `Self.x` if we were allowed to
> use it.
Enums are only the most common place where static members of Self type appear in numbers, but option sets also do. While this may be a matter of taste, being able to refer to `.max`, `.infinity`, `.nan`, or other abstract constants of numeric types in a concrete-type-agnostic way also seems like a win to me.
-Joe
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