[swift-evolution] [META] Re: Mailman?

Ilya Belenkiy ilya.belenkiy at gmail.com
Sat Apr 2 10:16:24 CDT 2016


Hi Keith,

can you give some more details on how to do this? I'd love to use Unison
for this, but I have no idea how to set this up. Any help is greatly
appreciated.

--
Ilya

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:47 PM Keith Smiley via swift-evolution <
swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:

> For those who are just interested in getting these conversations out of
> their
> email in the meantime, you can use the nntp bridge at
>
> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.swift.evolution/
>
> Along with Panic's retired Unison app
>
> https://panic.com/blog/the-future-of-unison/
>
> As a pretty good GUI for this.
>
> --
> Keith Smiley
>
> On 03/09, James Campbell via swift-evolution wrote:
> > They are listening but they keep saying they don't have the resources.
> So I
> > would encourage them to let the community give back and set something up
> !
> >
> > *___________________________________*
> >
> > *James⎥Head of Trolls*
> >
> > *james at supmenow.com <james at supmenow.com>⎥supmenow.com <
> http://supmenow.com>*
> >
> > *Sup*
> >
> > *Runway East *
> >
> > *10 Finsbury Square*
> >
> > *London*
> >
> > * EC2A 1AF *
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 6:28 PM, David Hart via swift-evolution <
> > swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> >
> > > +1000
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On 09 Mar 2016, at 11:34, Adrian Kashivskyy via swift-evolution <
> > > swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm a very big supporter of moving the discussions to a Discourse forum
> > > installation. Here are my arguments:
> > >
> > >
> > >    1. *Subscribing to interesting threads*
> > >    In the mailing list, it is not possible to subscribe to a thread
> > >    unless the mail client supports it. In a forum, you can subscribe
> to a
> > >    thread and you may even turn on email notifications.
> > >    2. *Muting uninteresting threads*
> > >    Unless the mail client is supporting it (many don't) – it's not
> > >    possible to mute a thread – all emails are equally important.
> > >    3. *Searching*
> > >    It is way easier to search an indexed forum like Discourse, than
> > >    searching through 12k emails
> > >    4. *Message formatting*
> > >    We tend to include many code examples and formatted text in our
> > >    messages. Some of us tend to create markdown files on the side and
> then
> > >    paste the generated HTML into an email body. Discourse supports
> > >    mix-and-match of Markdown, HTML and BBEdit.
> > >    5. *Tags*
> > >    In the mailing list, most of us tend to include [tags] in the mail
> > >    subjects, but some folks forget or ignore them. Discourse allows to
> > >    predefine tags for the threads which improves indexing and
> searching even
> > >    more.
> > >    6. *Pinned threads*
> > >    Announcements of e.g. ongoing reviews may take a form of pinned
> > >    threads so they are immediately visible to forum members.
> > >    7. *The problem of replying to a thread with a changed subject*
> > >    Sometimes users reply to threads but accidentally add a tag or a
> > >    whitespace to the message subject. Most mail client interpret it as
> a new
> > >    thread and such a reply may be lost in the wild. Replies to
> coherent forum
> > >    threads are never lost, they're always in the right place.
> > >    8. *Accessibility*
> > >    Even if your mailing client allows all of the above features,
> > >    sometimes it is needed to access the forums from a phone or on a
> university
> > >    computer, where many functionalities are blocked. Although it is
> possible
> > >    to access the webmail page in the browser, it is most often painful
> to
> > >    navigate through archives (especially on icloud.com ¯\_(ツ)_/¯).
> When
> > >    using Discourse, all above features are available everywhere.
> > >    9. *Permanent links*
> > >    To share a link to a Discourse discussion, you just copy it from the
> > >    browser URL field. To share a link to a mailing list reply, you
> need to
> > >    open the web archive, find the topic manually and then copy the URL
> from
> > >    the browser field anyway.
> > >    10. *Mentioning other users*
> > >    In mailing list, this is achievable by including the target user in
> a
> > >    recipients list. In forum, you just @mention someone, just like in
> GitHub
> > >    issues.
> > >    11. *Privacy*
> > >    Some users don't want their private emails to be disclosed in a
> > >    mailing list. In a forum like Discourse, you can choose whether
> your email
> > >    is displayed publicly or not.
> > >
> > >
> > > I can actually go on and on with my points, but I very much hope that
> the
> > > above list is sufficient to start a serious discussion about migrating
> to a
> > > forum, like Discourse.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Adrian Kashivskyy
> > >
> > > Wiadomość napisana przez Fload via swift-evolution <
> > > swift-evolution at swift.org> w dniu 06.03.2016, o godz. 23:46:
> > >
> > > Using Mail here, it works well for me! :)
> > >
> > > On Mar 6, 2016, at 9:31 PM, Kevin Lundberg via swift-evolution <
> > > swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I wonder if some of the dislike for mailing lists here is due to people
> > > using Mail.app on osx/ios to keep up with discussions. I find that
> > > Thunderbird's mailing list handling is really nice (much better than
> > > Mail.app), since it correctly shows replies as a tree so it's easy to
> see
> > > which messages reply to which at a glance.
> > >
> > > On 3/6/2016 12:54 PM, Goffredo Marocchi via swift-evolution wrote:
> > >
> > > Setting up a custom Google Wave service? ... *waits for laughter to die
> > > down* it is actually open source and did its job well actually.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On 6 Mar 2016, at 17:35, Radosław Pietruszewski via swift-evolution <
> > > swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have to admit that I’ve also gotten used to the current system,
> however
> > > archaic ;)
> > >
> > > I’d still be happy to move to a more modern system, but it’s not as
> > > important to me as in the beginning.
> > >
> > > The only requirement, I think, for a lot of people, would be for the
> new
> > > system to still allow subscription and posting to go through email.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > — Radek
> > >
> > > On 05 Mar 2016, at 00:37, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution <
> > > swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Speaking as someone who tries to observe trends in discussions, does a
> lot
> > > of search through her mail archives,
> > > and uses gmane to capture permanent links, I've been very satisfied
> with
> > > the existing solution.
> > >
> > > I suspect that most of us happy users never get heard in this
> discussion,
> > > so I'm just putting this out there.
> > >
> > > -- Erica
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 4, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Jacob Bandes-Storch via swift-evolution <
> > > <swift-evolution at swift.org>swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Friendly bump:
> > >
> > > Discourse is now free for open-source projects.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> http://blog.discourse.org/2016/03/free-discourse-forum-hosting-for-community-friendly-github-projects/
> > >
> > >
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