[swift-evolution] [swift-evolution-announce] [Review] SE-0027 Expose code unit initializers on String

Zach Waldowski zach at waldowski.me
Sun Feb 14 00:40:46 CST 2016


I think you're drawing an overly arbitrary distinction about the
semantics. I'd recommend a close re-reading of the Swift book's chapters
on String after their reworking in 2.0; it bridges together the "linked
list of text-ish things", "collection of Characters", and "bag of bytes"
ideas rather well. They're not mutually exclusive.

The new methods do not decrease the safety of String, nor does it change
the contract of the API design. It should not be possible to get
malformed strings back from the new API; the non-validating version
automatically performs repairs, and the validating version fails (by
returning nil) on any errors. In fact, exposing these APIs in a way that
is aware and respectful of String's underpinnings is safer than the
alternative. The stdlib won't screw up things like surrogate pairs or
range checking of valid code points, whereas I've seen plenty of code
try and do what these methods do themselves by upcasting UInt8 to
UnicodeScalar and accumulating.

Addressing other points about the proposal: I overall agree with you
that the Views would do a better job of this on the long scale of time,
but C and ObjC interop simple require entry points like the ones in this
proposal, and are in-line with how Swift works today. This proposal is
not intended to overhaul String, even though that may be one day
desirable by what Dave and others said on the Evolution thread.

Thanks for your feedback! :)

Zach Waldowski
zach at waldowski.me

On Sat, Feb 13, 2016, at 05:33 PM, Patrick Gili via swift-evolution
wrote:
> Okay. However, does this change the implied semantics?
> 
> > On Feb 13, 2016, at 5:26 PM, Brent Royal-Gordon <brent at architechies.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> The introduction starts out by making the claim, "Going back and forth from Strings to their byte representations is an important part of solving many problems, including object serialization, binary and text file formats, wire/network interfaces, and cryptography." Essentially, these problems deal with an array of raw bytes, and I have to wonder why an application would push them into a String?
> > 
> > I read this section as trying to say "object serialization, binary and text file formats, wire/network interfaces, and cryptography all require you to construct strings from decoded bytes, which is what this proposal is trying to improve". I don't think it's trying to say that we should have better support for treating strings as bags of arbitrary bytes, and in fact I don't think this proposal does that.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Brent Royal-Gordon
> > Architechies
> > 
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