[swift-evolution] named parameters - why hidden first?/proposal interest

[Rudolf Adamkovic]

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> On 24 Jan 2016, at 00:06, Charles Constant via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
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>> but what I found was that my APIs generally fell in line naturally with the defaults.  
>> And when they didn't, looking for a way to take advantage of the defaults often
>> led to a better API
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> I'm not sure I follow this. A change would result in:
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> Pros:
> - the rule of "least surprise"
> - developers can edit function definitions more quickly 
> 
> Cons:
> - one extra character (i.e.: from "foo: Int" to "_ foo: Int")
> - one missed opportunity to set an example of "good style"
> 
> Am I missing something?

One extra character?

With our current Objective-C style, we need to repeat at least one word and often need to include "with", "by", "using", etc. to make it read nicely.

Compare:

1.
splitWithSeparator(_ separator: ...

2.
split(separator: ...

The first form repeats "separator" twice and needs "with". And then there's (as you mentioned) the underscore and the space character. In short, tons of crap.

R+

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