[swift-evolution] Proposal: Expose getter/setters in the same way as regular methods

[Douglas Gregor]

FYI, I just sent a proposal draft titled “Generalized Naming for Any Function” that pulls these ideas together more formally. I went with a different syntax that I’d been kicking around for a while internally, and I’d love to hear everyone’s thoughts on this.

	- Doug

> On Dec 14, 2015, at 12:25 AM, Pierre Monod-Broca via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> 
> +1
> 
> I like the #get, #set suffixes.
> 
> I’m afraid the following would be a bit ambiguous
>>  - example.init(argument:Int, another:String)
>>  - example.subscript(index:Int)
> 
> Maybe with ‘#’ too
>  - example.init#argument:Int#another:String
>  - example.init#argument#another
>  - example.init#(argument:Int, another:String)
>  - example.subscript#index:Int
>  - example.subscript#Int
> 
> Pierre
> 
>> Le 14 déc. 2015 à 08:57, ilya via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>> a écrit :
>> 
>> > Being able to refer to getters and setters is a good idea and aligns with being able to refer to initializers and methods.
>> > I would also add subscripts to the list if possible.
>> 
>> Great idea! Let's discuss syntax
>> 
>> How about 
>>  - example.get.member
>>  - example.set.member
>>  - example.init(argument:Int, another:String)
>>  - example.subscript(index:Int)
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 3:49 AM, Marc Knaup via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>> wrote:
>> Wait, where is stated that KVO is a long-term goal for Swift? I might have missed that.
>> 
>> I find that one of Objective-C's most annoying features. It makes it really difficult to reason about code when things can happen unexpectedly left and right. It's the same issue with aspect-oriented programming.
>> 
>> I prefer explicit integration points like closures, delegates and alike.
>> Most times I used KVO in the past was to work around bugs or annoyances on iOS, like for example forcing a button stay enabled even when iOS disables it.
>> 
>> Also it's unlikely that all mutable properties will support observation automatically. That would require the optimizer to keep using dynamic dispatch for all of them which will hurt performance.
>> 
>> 
>> But I'm getting off-topic since your discussion is not about KVO nor about KVC.
>> 
>> Being able to refer to getters and setters is a good idea and aligns with being able to refer to initializers and methods.
>> I would also add subscripts to the list if possible.
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:34 AM, Michael Henson via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>> wrote:
>> Swift-like full KVO/KVC as in Objective-C is a stated long-term goal for Swift's evolution. The 90% solution might be more straightforward:
>> 
>> class Example {
>>   var member: String
>> 
>>   func print() {
>>     print(self.member)
>>   }
>> }
>> 
>> var example = Example(member: "Hi!")
>> 
>> var example_print_method = example.print
>> example_print_method()
>> result:
>> Hi!
>> 
>> If there were a mechanism for referring to the getter and setter methods on the var member property as the same kind of self-capturing closures, it could make simple cases of data binding easier to implement:
>> 
>> var serializeFields = [
>>   "member": example.member#get,
>> ]
>> 
>> var deserializeFields = [
>>   "member": example.member#set,
>> ]
>> 
>> var broadcastValueTo = [
>>   "memberValues": [
>>      example.member#set,
>>      example2.member#set,
>>      example3.member#set,
>>   ]
>> ]
>> 
>> viewController.textField.onValueChanged(example.member#set)
>> 
>> Etc.
>> 
>> The "#" notation is just a placeholder for "whatever mechanism is decided upon", though it does seem to be available and using it postfix makes a first-glance sense to me in terms of the semantics of expressions.
>> 
>> Mike
>>  
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