[swift-evolution] Support Transducers

Matthew Johnson matthew at anandabits.com
Fri Dec 25 13:15:07 CST 2015

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> On Dec 25, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Dmitri Gribenko via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Jason Jobe via swift-evolution
> <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>> Okay,
>> I would like to propose that Transducers be considered for addition to the Swift core.
>> "Transducers are a powerful and composable way to build algorithmic transformations that you can reuse in many contexts…"
>> There are ways to build them w/out any language modification but they are not as efficient as alternative expressions.
> Hi Jason,
> I was playing with a similar idea here:
> https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/master/test/Prototypes/CollectionTransformers.swift
> You wouldn't find the word 'transducer' there, but it is based on
> similar principles, except it also allows you to optimize the AST of
> the transformation, and it is structured in such a way that would
> allow us to automatically parallelize the whole pipeline.

It's great to see you experimenting with this!

It's unrelated but one comment in there jumped out at me:
// As sad as it is, I think for practical performance reasons we should rewrite
// the inner parts of the fork-join framework in C++.  In way too many cases
// than necessary Swift requires an extra allocation to pin objects in memory
// for safe multithreaded access.  -Dmitri

I agree this is sad, but also hope it is only a temporary situation (as with other performance related concerns).  Any thoughts on that?

> Dmitri
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