[swift-evolution] Brace syntax

Dennis Lysenko dennis.s.lysenko at gmail.com
Sun Dec 20 09:52:58 CST 2015


Contrived example Charles. Apple's tutorials consistently put braces on the
line of the statement declaration.
https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/Swift/Conceptual/Swift_Programming_Language/ControlFlow.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40014097-CH9-ID120

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 7:16 AM Charles Constant via swift-evolution <
swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:

> Andrey's post encourages me to veer into the merits of significant
> whitespace vs braces. This is probably unwise of me, since we're not all
> going to agree any time soon, but I can't resist pointing out an example:
>
> ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
> var foo: Int
> {
>     get
>     {
>         return _foo
>     }
>     set
>     {
>         _foo = newValue
>     }
> }
>
> ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
> var foo: Int:
>     get:
>         return _foo
>     set:
>         _foo = newValue
>
> ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
> It's obvious no programmer is going to be consistent about braces in the
> first example - it's absurdly verbose. So with braces in Swift, pretty much
> everything you write carries the overhead of "what inconsistent way will i
> format the braces for this code?" For me, I'd rather throw out the (largely
> redundant) noise, and stick with just the content.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 3:59 AM, Andrey Tarantsov via swift-evolution <
> swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>
>> I don't know many people who have experienced a large variety (8+?) of
>> programming languages and prefer Python's forced indentation
>>
>>
>> Count me as one. I'd prefer Swift to have Python-style indentation, just
>> on the grounds of braces being stupid (why would you want to enter the same
>> scope information *twice*)?
>>
>> So +1 from me, although I don't suffer from the braces at all.
>>
>> I do want to point out that the amount of code that fits on a screen *is* fairly
>> important, and you should keep your methods short, so one less brace per
>> method means a couple more methods per screen.
>>
>> This would also free up braces to mean “closure” in 100% of cases, which
>> is good for consistency.
>>
>> But it would introduce it's share of problems for sure, so I don't feel
>> strongly about this proposal.
>>
>> I also admit that braces are generally preferred, for some mysterious
>> reason that I hope a believer can articulate here. Take Sass, for example;
>> it has both an indentation-based syntax and a braces-based syntax, and the
>> latter one seems way more popular.
>>
>> A.
>>
>>
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