[swift-evolution] Brace syntax

Craig Cruden ccruden at novafore.com
Sat Dec 19 20:03:05 CST 2015

Removing braces for scope would cause more problems than whatever you would gain from it - it is one character at the end of a function declaration and one at the end of a function.

Using white space to (indentation sometimes is a tab, sometimes and sometimes get mixed up) scope is not the best way to do it.  


> On 2015-12-20, at 8:58:02, Kevin Ballard via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> There is not in fact an emphasis on conciseness. This has been repeated many times by the swift team. Conciseness is not a goal of Swift, but expressiveness absolutely is. Braces are a well-understood and simple way to express the notion of a scope/closure. And FWIW removing braces means you have to come up with a completely different syntax for closures, because indentation does not suffice there.
> Also, "don't be like C" is not even remotely a goal of Swift. The Swift syntax is C-like in many respects. "Be like C" isn't a goal either of course, but when deciding between two alternatives that have no compelling arguments either way, picking the one that would be more familiar to Obj-C programmers is usually a good idea.
> -Kevin Ballard
> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015, at 05:39 PM, Alexander Regueiro via swift-evolution wrote:
>> Has anyone considered removing braces from the Swift language? The main alternative would be indentation-based scoping like in Python or Ruby. There already seems to be a general emphasis on conciseness,  lack of redundancy, and a modern syntax. e.g. semicolons are not required for single-line statements; brackets have been removed from if/for/while expressions, compared to C-style syntax. So, why not go the whole way in breaking the C-style connection? The present syntax seems to be shunning C, but only slightly.
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