[swift-evolution] Proposal: Add .times method to Integer type
Cihat Gündüz
CihatGuenduez at posteo.de
Fri Dec 18 14:44:43 CST 2015
I see your points and agree that this is a small feature. My thinking was that it can be added to the standard library pretty easily just because of this without real disadvantages – but it may of course not pay for itself and maybe even cause confusion.
As I stated earlier implementing the method also is about what the standard library should be and what it should not. I learned more about it now and understand that the suggested method may not be appropriate for it. I will probably stick with libraries for a `times` method in the future then.
Thank you very much Radek, Chris and the others for your feedback and consideration!
– Cihat
> Am 18.12.2015 um 21:37 schrieb Chris Lattner <clattner at apple.com>:
>
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>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Radosław Pietruszewski <radexpl at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> My personal opinion on this is that 5.times { stuff} offers no benefits over “repeat 5 { stuff }”, so I’d rather see the later (if anything).
>>>
>>> This is all shades of gray with no clear answer. We generally want to have standard APIs pay for themselves and avoid confusion. I agree with DaveA’s points upthread. If you contrast it with forEach, forEach (barely!) pays for itself by allowing things like:
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>>> collection.forEach(curriedMethod)
>>>
>>> That benefit doesn’t translate to “.times".
>>>
>>> -Chris
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>> Thanks for weighing in!
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>> The benefit of `5.times` vs `repeat 5` is that the former is (and can easily be) defined in Swift, not as a language-level feature. OTOH `repeat 5` is a bit more useful because it allows returning/breaking/etc.
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>> But I also understand the argument that this feature isn’t worth it at all. (There’s already a lot of libraries extending stdlib with things of this sort!)
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> It’s important to differentiate “not interesting” vs “not appropriate to include in the swift standard library”. I love that you can express things like that directly in the language, and if someone felt compelled to do that in their own code (or in a SPM package someday) that would be fine with me. It just shouldn’t (again, IMO) come with swift out of the box.
>
> -Chris
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