<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 28, 2016, at 9:44 AM, David Sweeris via swift-build-dev <<a href="mailto:swift-build-dev@swift.org" class="">swift-build-dev@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On Nov 19, 2016, at 23:48, Anders Bertelrud <<a href="mailto:anders@apple.com" class="">anders@apple.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii" class=""><span style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class="">Hello Swift community,</span><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><span style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class="">The review of "SE-0145: Package Manager Version Pinning" begins again after revisions, starting now and running through November 28th. The proposal is available here:</span><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular; white-space: pre;"> </span><a href="https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0145-package-manager-version-pinning.md" class="">https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0145-package-manager-version-pinning.md</a><div class=""><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><span style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class="">Reviews are an important part of the Swift evolution process. 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When writing your review, here are some questions you might want to answer in your review:</span><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular; white-space: pre;"> </span><span style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class="">* What is your evaluation of the proposal?</span><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular; white-space: pre;"> </span><span style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class="">* Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change to Swift?</span><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular; white-space: pre;"> </span><span style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class="">* Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift?</span><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular; white-space: pre;"> </span><span style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class="">* If you have used other languages or libraries with a similar feature, how do you feel that this proposal compares to those?</span><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular; white-space: pre;"> </span><span style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class="">* How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick reading, or an in-depth study?</span><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><span style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class="">More information about the Swift evolution process is available at</span><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular; white-space: pre;"> </span><a href="https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/process.md" style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class="">https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/process.md</a><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><span style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class="">Thank you,</span><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><span style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class="">Anders Bertelrud</span><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""><span style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class="">Review Manager</span><br style="font-family: SFUIText-Regular;" class=""></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span class="">_______________________________________________</span><br class=""><span class="">swift-evolution-announce mailing list</span><br class=""><span class=""><a href="mailto:swift-evolution-announce@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution-announce@swift.org</a></span><br class=""><span class=""><a href="https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution-announce" class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution-announce</a></span><br class=""></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>Just to pick a couple nits...<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">I'm not sure "pinning" is the best word, but I don't have any thoughts on what would be better.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Does the pinning info have to be in an optional file? Would it be better to have it be an optional part of the manifest? There'd be one less file to carry around.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Even if we wanted to do this, we do not yet have the technical ability to mechanically edit the manifest file, so it needs to be separate in order to be implementable in the short term.</div><div><br class=""></div><div> - Daniel</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I didn't follow the discussion thread very closely... If either of these "issues" were debated there, I do *not* want to start rehashing them. Furthermore, IMHO both are pretty minor (especially the first one... it's completely subjective).</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">+1, either way</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- Dave Sweeris </div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-build-dev mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:swift-build-dev@swift.org" class="">swift-build-dev@swift.org</a><br class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-build-dev<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>