<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">We really don't want to make subscripting a non-O(1) operation. That just provides false convenience and encourages people to do the wrong thing with Strings anyway.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'm always interested in why people want this kind of ability. Yes, it's nice for teaching programming to be able to split strings on character boundaries indexed by integers, but where does it come up in real life? The most common cases I see are trying to strip off the first or last character, or a known prefix or suffix, and I feel like we should have better answers for those than "use integer indexes" anyway.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Jordan</div><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 13, 2017, at 22:30, Cao, Jiannan via swift-dev <<a href="mailto:swift-dev@swift.org" class="">swift-dev@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I would like to discuss the String.Index problem within Swift. I know the current situation of String.Index is based on the nature of the underlaying data structure of the string.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But could we just make String.Index contain offset information? Or make offset index subscript available for accessing character in String?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">for example:</div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(186, 45, 162);" class="">let</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""> a = </span><span style="color: rgb(209, 47, 27); font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">"01234"</span><br class=""><span style="color: rgb(62, 30, 129); font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">print</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">(</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(79, 129, 135);" class="">a</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">[</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(39, 42, 216);" class="">0</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">]) </span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(0, 132, 0);" class="">// 0<br class=""></span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(62, 30, 129);" class="">print</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">(</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(79, 129, 135);" class="">a</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">[</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(39, 42, 216);" class="">0</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">...</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(39, 42, 216);" class="">4</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">]) </span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(0, 132, 0);" class="">// 01234<br class=""></span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(62, 30, 129);" class="">print</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">(</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(79, 129, 135);" class="">a</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">[...]) </span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(0, 132, 0);" class="">// 01234</span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(62, 30, 129);" class="">print</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">(</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(79, 129, 135);" class="">a</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">[..<</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(39, 42, 216);" class="">2</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">]) </span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(0, 132, 0);" class="">// 01<br class=""></span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(62, 30, 129);" class="">print</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">(</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(79, 129, 135);" class="">a</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">[...</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(39, 42, 216);" class="">2</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">]) </span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(0, 132, 0);" class="">// 012<br class=""></span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(62, 30, 129);" class="">print</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">(</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(79, 129, 135);" class="">a</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">[</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(39, 42, 216);" class="">2</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">...]) </span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(0, 132, 0);" class="">// 234<br class=""></span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(62, 30, 129);" class="">print</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">(</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(79, 129, 135);" class="">a</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">[</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(39, 42, 216);" class="">2</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">...</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(39, 42, 216);" class="">3</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">]) </span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(0, 132, 0);" class="">// 23<br class=""></span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(62, 30, 129);" class="">print</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">(</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(79, 129, 135);" class="">a</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">[</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(39, 42, 216);" class="">2</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">...</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(39, 42, 216);" class="">2</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">]) </span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(0, 132, 0);" class="">// 2</span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(186, 45, 162);" class="">if</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""> </span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(186, 45, 162);" class="">let</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""> number = </span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(79, 129, 135);" class="">a</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">.</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(49, 89, 93);" class="">index</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">(of: </span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(209, 47, 27);" class="">"1"</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">) {<br class=""></span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""> </span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(62, 30, 129);" class="">print</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">(number) </span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(0, 132, 0);" class="">// 1<br class=""></span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""> </span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(62, 30, 129);" class="">print</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">(</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(79, 129, 135);" class="">a</span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">[number...]) </span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(0, 132, 0);" class="">// 1234<br class=""></span><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">}</span></blockquote><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">0 equals to Collection.Index of collection.index(startIndex, offsetBy: 0)</span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">1 equals to</span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""> Collection.Index of collection.index(startIndex, offsetBy: 1)</span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">...</span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">we keep the String.Index, but allow another kind of index, which is called "offsetIndex" to access the String.Index and the character in the string.</span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Any Collection could use the offset index to access their element, regarding the real index of it.</span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">I have make the Collection OffsetIndexable protocol available here, and make it more accessible for StringProtocol considering all API related to the index.</span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><a href="https://github.com/frogcjn/OffsetIndexableCollection-String-Int-Indexable-" class="">https://github.com/frogcjn/OffsetIndexableCollection-String-Int-Indexable-</a></span></div></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">If someone want to make the offset index/range available for any collection, you just need to extend the collection:</span></div><div class=""><pre style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: SFMono-Regular, Consolas, "Liberation Mono", Menlo, Courier, monospace; font-size: 13.600000381469727px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; word-wrap: normal; padding: 16px; overflow: auto; line-height: 1.45; background-color: rgb(246, 248, 250); border-top-left-radius: 3px; border-top-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-left-radius: 3px; word-break: normal; color: rgb(36, 41, 46);" class=""><span class="pl-k" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(215, 58, 73);">extension</span> <span class="pl-en" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(111, 66, 193);"><span class="pl-c1" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 92, 197);">String</span></span> : <span class="pl-e" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(111, 66, 193);">OffsetIndexableCollection </span>{
}
<span class="pl-k" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(215, 58, 73);">extension</span> <span class="pl-en" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(111, 66, 193);">Substring</span> : <span class="pl-e" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(111, 66, 193);">OffsetIndexableCollection </span>{
}</pre><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">I hope the Swift core team could consider bring the offset index to string, or make it available to other collection, thus let developer to decide whether their collection could use offset indices as an assistant for the real index of the collection.</span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Thanks!</span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Jiannan</span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="color: rgb(186, 45, 162);" class=""></span></div></blockquote></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-dev mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:swift-dev@swift.org" class="">swift-dev@swift.org</a><br class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-dev<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>