<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 6, 2017, at 7:57 PM, Brent Royal-Gordon via swift-dev <<a href="mailto:swift-dev@swift.org" class="">swift-dev@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 5, 2017, at 11:59 AM, Jordan Rose via swift-dev <<a href="mailto:swift-dev@swift.org" class="">swift-dev@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Now, we don't plan to stick to C's layout for structs, even fixed-contents structs. We'd really like users to not worry about manually packing things into trailing alignment space. But we still need a way to lay out fields consistently; if you have two stored properties with the same type,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">one</i> of them has to go first. There are two ways to do this: sort by name, and sort by declaration order.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">That means we can<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">either</i> allow reordering<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">or</i> allow renaming, but not both</b>. Which do people think is more important?</div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div class="">This is going against the grain, but I think we should order by name and therefore allow reordering, but not renaming. If an API is public, renaming is obviously going to be source-breaking and could easily be ABI-breaking; I don't think it's that hard to explain that renaming can also be ABI-breaking when you've declared your type's layout is part of your module's ABI.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>However, @fixedContents structs can also contain private stored properties. Renaming a private property is not source-breaking (but if we sort by name when performing layout, it will be ABI breaking).</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">As for the keyword…maybe `public(layout)` or `public(storage)`? People are familiar with the idea that you have to be careful when you change something that's public, so it wouldn't be surprising that a type with a public layout would be sensitive to changes to its memory layout.</div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I’m hesitant to use a keyword rather than an @attribute for this, because (for the most part) attributes don’t change the language semantics of a declaration, only its implementation (of course there are exceptions, like @objc which introduces restrictions, etc).</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Slava</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="">
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