<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><div class="">I was not aware of the 'ninja' commands as I have always been using the</div><div class="">documented utils/build-script. Thank you for sharing tips from your development</div><div class="">workflow too. I will try it out!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Nate</div><div class=""><a href="http://github.com/contraultra" class="">github.com/contraultra</a></div><div class="">mastodon.social/@contraultra</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 21, 2017, at 2:25 PM, Slava Pestov <<a href="mailto:spestov@apple.com" class="">spestov@apple.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 21, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Natthan Leong via swift-dev <<a href="mailto:swift-dev@swift.org" class="">swift-dev@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Hi,</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">As someone who also recently started contributing, I was surprised to discover</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">how much computing power was needed to build Swift. My first few build attempts</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">on a mid-2014 rMBP took more than an hour with 100% CPU utilization which is</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">unsustainable for future participation.</span></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div class="">A clean build of LLVM, swift, and the standard library takes a while, but most of the time you shouldn’t have to rebuild everything from scratch.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For example if I’m just iterating on the compiler, I can edit a couple of source files and run ‘ninja swift’ and have a new compiler binary ready to test in a few seconds. I only rebuild the standard library if absolutely necessary, since that takes longer, but even then ‘ninja swift-stdlib’ is only a few minutes.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also I always do release builds during normal development, only doing a debug build if I have to run the debugger which isn’t very often. Release builds produce a faster swiftc, so the standard library is built faster, and also they link faster.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Finally, it is possible to run only a subset of the validation tests while you’re iterating on a specific feature, instead of having to wait the ~15 minutes for ‘ninja check-swift-validation’, by directly invoking lit.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Slava</div><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>