<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div><br></div><div><br>On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:49 PM, John McCall via swift-dev <<a href="mailto:swift-dev@swift.org">swift-dev@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Daniel Dunbar <<a href="mailto:daniel_dunbar@apple.com" class="">daniel_dunbar@apple.com</a>> wrote:</div><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Dave Abrahams via swift-dev <<a href="mailto:swift-dev@swift.org" class="">swift-dev@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">on Fri Oct 21 2016, John McCall <</span><a href="http://rjmccall-at-apple.com/" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">rjmccall-AT-apple.com</a><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">> wrote:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Oct 21, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Dave Abrahams via swift-dev <<a href="mailto:swift-dev@swift.org" class="">swift-dev@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">on Fri Oct 21 2016, Daniel Dunbar <<a href="http://swift-dev-at-swift.org/" class="">swift-dev-AT-swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">While on this topic...<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">GitHub's support for doing cross-repo pull requests is<br class="">excellent. Anyone can easily fork the main repo, and push to their<br class="">side repo (for example, with: `git push ddunbar<br class="">HEAD:name-of-my-new-branch`) and the GitHub web UI on the main repo<br class="">will automatically show you a handy button for creating the PR.<br class=""><br class="">With this level of support, IMHO branches usually should be pushed to<br class="">individual's own repos, not the main repo.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">IMO it depends whether you think Swift development should be<br class="">discoverable. When the Swift project formally engages in developing<br class="">something like the new integer and floating point models, there's an<br class="">advantage to having it in the main repository.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I don't understand this argument. Looking at a list of branches is not a useful<br class="">way of discovering development history — you don't know which branches are<br class="">still active, which branches were merged, or which branches were completely<br class="">abandoned. <br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">True. Maybe discoverability isn't the word I was looking for. When</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">three people want to collaborate on development of a feature branch,</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">where should it live?</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>I agree... longer lived high profile branches make sense to me personally, just not short lived "push for purpose of PRing immediately" ones.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Yeah, I agree. Any sort of *collaborative* branch is 100% okay to live in the main repository. If you weren't expecting a branch to be a collaboration and it starts turning into one, it's easy to just move it over from your personal fork at that point.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>These arguments all resonate with me as well. I'd prefer we keep branches in the main repository for release management or high-profile collaborative branches only. That said, your argument that a list of branches doesn't provide a good axis of discoverability is still relevant. For that I still think pull requests are better suited. Still, branches provide all sorts of things like access control, etc., but I personally have no problems with collaborative development work happening on forks, even if it involves more than one person.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><br class=""></div><div>John.</div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>swift-dev mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:swift-dev@swift.org">swift-dev@swift.org</a></span><br><span><a href="https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-dev">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-dev</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>