<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 7, 2016, at 6:04 PM, Michael Gottesman via swift-dev <<a href="mailto:swift-dev@swift.org" class="">swift-dev@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class=""><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="">I wonder whether it might make more sense for load [borrow] to be a different instruction.</div><div class="">There's a couple reasons for that first. The first is that it's the only load which introduces</div><div class="">a scope, which is a really big difference structurally. The second is that it's the only load</div><div class="">which returns a non-owned value, which will be a typing difference when we record</div><div class="">ownership in the type system.</div></div></div></blockquote><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">I am fine with a load_borrow. If this is the only change left that you want can I just send out a proposal with that small change and start implementing. I am nervous about perfection being the enemy of the good (and I want to start implementing this weekend if possible *evil smile*).</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">There’s a lot in the proposal that makes sense to discuss for completeness but isn’t motivated by a particular need. Please separate functionality. We only need load [copy] at first right? When do those need to be promoted to load_borrow? load [trivial] is an optimization, so that should follow a functionally complete implementation. load [take] should definitely not exist until there’s some motivation.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Andy</div></body></html>