<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Jean-Pierre,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 7, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Jean-Pierre Simard via swift-dev <<a href="mailto:swift-dev@swift.org" class="">swift-dev@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">> Note that I'm already working on this part. The Swift runtime needs to provide low-level reflection interfaces that allow the standard library to implement Mirror without depending on private runtime ABI.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That's great to hear! Is there any chance that this work could introduce type-level reflection APIs that would allow reflecting uninstantiated types? Or should I make a formal proposal for this functionality in swift-evolution?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>There is a proposal for uninstantiated type metadata reflection in the GitHub repo in docs/proposals/RemoteMirrors.rst, but it might not cover your specific use-case. As Joe hinted, starting from concrete requirements is the best way forward here.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Slava</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Joe Groff via swift-dev <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:swift-dev@swift.org" target="_blank" class="">swift-dev@swift.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br class="">
> On Dec 6, 2015, at 2:20 AM, Dmitri Gribenko via swift-dev <<a href="mailto:swift-dev@swift.org" class="">swift-dev@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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> We need new runtime entry points that make sense for the new mirror<br class="">
> implementation. The current entry points (the _reflect() function and<br class="">
> all its implementation details) directly depend on the old mirrors.<br class="">
> This step is slightly harder, but not doesn't require extraordinary<br class="">
> skills. This part requires writing a proposal, because the runtime<br class="">
> API is going to be stable.<br class="">
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</span>Note that I'm already working on this part. The Swift runtime needs to provide low-level reflection interfaces that allow the standard library to implement Mirror without depending on private runtime ABI.<br class="">
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-Joe<br class="">
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