[swift-dev] Helping out with larger-scope items?

Shawn Erickson shawnce at gmail.com
Fri Feb 19 21:39:01 CST 2016


Sounds good. I can follow your lead.
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 7:19 PM Austin Zheng <austinzheng at gmail.com> wrote:

> That sounds like a great plan.
>
> I can start taking a look at the initial step this weekend, or if Shawn or
> Max prefers they can do it too.
>
> Austin
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Dave Abrahams <dabrahams at apple.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> on Fri Feb 19 2016, Shawn Erickson <shawnce-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I would like to make myself available for standard library work. It is
>> more
>> > of wheel house then compiler, etc.
>> >
>> > -Shawn
>> >
>> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:19 PM Dave Abrahams via swift-dev <
>> > swift-dev at swift.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> on Tue Feb 16 2016, Austin Zheng <swift-dev-AT-swift.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >
>> >> > The bug tracker contains a number of small, relatively
>> straightforward
>> >> > tasks and bugs marked as 'starter bugs'. What would be a good way to
>> >> > find, start working on, or collaborate on tasks and engineering
>> >> > projects with larger, more complex scope? I know there are Apple
>> >> > engineers concentrating on specific subsets of Swift 3.0
>> >> > functionality, and it would be great if there were a way for us on
>> the
>> >> > outside to usefully help out.
>> >>
>> >> Hi Austin,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks again for asking.  We actually have a pretty substantial
>> >> challenge ahead with replacing the standard library's collections and
>> >> indices with what's in
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/master/test/Prototypes/CollectionsMoveIndices.swift
>> >> I anticipate that the whole stdlib team may need to be involved in this
>> >> project, which Dmitri (Cc'd) is driving, and we'd love it if you could
>> >> help.
>> >>
>> >> Obviously, as it hasn't gone through review yet, it needs to happen on
>> a
>> >> branch.
>> >>
>> >> Does that sound interesting?
>>
>> Okay, I've up a branch for you guys: swift-3-indexing-model.
>>
>> * You can submit pull requests against that.
>>
>> * There are corresponding branches in the swift-llvm and swift-clang
>>   repos that this branch will build/test against.
>>
>> * The branch is based on swift-3-api-guidelines, where we're doing all
>>   the renaming work associated with the new guidelines; we expect to
>>   merge that branch into master in a few days, so basing the indexing
>> model
>>   work on it should reduce conflicts when we merge this work.
>>
>> Most of the stdlib team is currently occupied with other fires, but we
>> want to move on to work on this ASAP.  If it's possible for you guys to
>> get it started in the meantime, that would be truly awesome.
>> Unfortunately the hardest part is right at the beginning.
>>
>> The first step is to make the minimal changes required to get the
>> standard library to build after replacing the Collection protocol with
>> the three shown in the prototype.  That step may not be very
>> parallelizable and might require either close coordination or for one of
>> you to do it alone.  Tests will be horribly broken at this point, and
>> you may have even commented out parts of the standard library, so this
>> step requires intestinal fortitude.
>>
>> If parts of the library have been disabled in step 1, next you can split
>> up the work of getting the whole library to work.
>>
>> At this point you should be able to mark the old Index protocols
>> @unavailable and move on to fixing tests.
>>
>> How does this all sound?
>>
>> P.S.  The Swift community is *so* awesome.
>>
>> --
>> -Dave
>>
>
>
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