[swift-dev] Swift vim support

[Keith Smiley]

Awesome thanks! I'd definitely be interested in helping maintain this
plugin. I can't speak for Kevin but I assume he would be as well.
On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 20:21 Ted kremenek <kremenek at apple.com> wrote:

> Hi Keith,
>
> This makes complete sense.  I can see why cloning a small self-contained
> repository would be ideal for plugin managers.
>
> I'll talk about this with the core team, but I think this seems like a
> reasonable direction.
>
> Incidentally, we would need one (or more) active maintainers for the vim
> plugin.  Dmitri Gribenko was the one on Apple's Swift team most actively
> using vim, but I'd also be happy with somebody outside of Apple being the
> custodian of this plugin.
>
> Ted
>
> On Jan 3, 2016, at 10:37 AM, Keith Smiley <keithbsmiley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Right there are 2 facets to the file hierarchy. The one covered in [2] is
> the
> standard structure vim expects when loading plugins. The need to be in a
> separate repo is for vim plugin managers.
>
> The most popular plugin managers[0][1][2] work by either you cloning, or
> specifying a repo containing a plugin to load. This means you would use
> something like `apple/swift.vim` in the case of the plugin I'm hoping for.
> The
> plugin managers then add that cloned directory to vim's runtime path where
> it
> looks for the structure covered in [2] to be able to load the correct
> plugin
> files. If that structure doesn't exist at the root of the repo, it has no
> effect. Some of the plugin managers[2] do have the ability to specify the
> subdirectory of a repo, but even if that was something we were relying on,
> having to clone the entire `apple/swift` repo for less than ~10 small
> files is
> a lot of overhead.
>
> Let me know if I need to elaborate more.
>
> Thanks!
>
> [0]: https://github.com/tpope/vim-pathogen
> [1]: https://github.com/VundleVim/Vundle.vim
> [2]: https://github.com/junegunn/vim-plug
>
> --
> Keith Smiley
>
>>
>>
>> On 01/02, Ted kremenek wrote:
>> > Hi Keith,
>> >
>> > I'm not a vim user, so I'm not certain how the nesting of the vim
>> support in the main repository is a problem.  I looked at [2] and noticed a
>> requirement for a folder layout, but I didn't see anything obvious to
>> indicate that this would benefit from being in a separate repository.  Can
>> you elucidate a bit more for my benefit?  Note that I'm not saying there is
>> a benefit; I'm just lacking some context here to understand why a separate
>> repository is needed.  If there is a clear benefit, this is something I'd
>> happily support and discuss with the rest of the Swift Core members.
>> >
>> > Ted
>> >
>> > > On Dec 31, 2015, at 12:09 PM, Keith Smiley via swift-dev <
>> swift-dev at swift.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hey all,
>> > >
>> > > When swift was open sourced a few of us noticed that there was some
>> existing
>> > > vim highlighting support[0]. While it sounds like what's there now
>> hasn't been
>> > > kept up to date for a while[1], that brought up the question if there
>> could
>> > > ever be a dedicated repository for vim support under the apple github
>> > > organization.
>> > >
>> > > Many vim plugin managers expect a specific folder structure[2] in
>> order to
>> > > work correctly. So the current nesting of the vim support in the main
>> repo
>> > > isn't ideal. I think it would be hugely beneficial to the members of
>> the
>> > > community who would prefer to use vim over any other editor, for
>> there to be a
>> > > first party repo similar to rust's[3].
>> > >
>> > > I'm not particularly suggesting that this plugin would be supported
>> by the
>> > > swift core team. As there are at least a few community swift vim
>> plugins
>> > > now[4][5] I would hope that as a community we would be willing and
>> able to
>> > > support this plguin. Personally I would love to be part of a unified
>> effort
>> > > towards better vim support for Swift!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Thoughts? Thanks!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > [0]: https://github.com/apple/swift/tree/master/utils/vim
>> > > [1]: https://twitter.com/jckarter/status/672493376856391681
>> > > [2]: https://robots.thoughtbot.com/writing-vim-syntax-plugins
>> > > [3]: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust.vim
>> > > [4]: https://github.com/keith/swift.vim
>> > > [5]: https://github.com/kballard/vim-swift
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Keith Smiley
>> > >
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