[swift-dev] The Swift Programming Language Translations

[Rogelio Gudino]

Yeah I’m starting to have conflicting ideas about this. On the one hand the
reader still needs to learn a decent amount of English to have a better
idea of what the standard library’s structs/classes/functions do, so might
as well keep all the code in English. On the other hand, they don’t have to
translate as much code while reading the book.

The one thing I am translating for sure is the content of all string values.

Rogelio Gudino

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Vinicius Vendramini <vinivendra at gmail.com>
wrote:

> This sounds like a good idea, especially for the second benefit. I’m just
> gonna keep translating text for now, but I'll have to think of a solution
> for that later.
>
> Something else: I’ve been translating most parts of the code, such as
> variable and function names. The resulting code is a bit weird (I can’t
> translate keywords and types, for instance) but I think it makes it easier
> for non-english speakers to grasp the code’s goals and therefore understand
> how it works. Also, it helps that we finally have a language in which I can
> actually write translated names with decent accents, not some dumbed down
> version, thanks to UTF-8 support. Have you thought about this?
>
>
> On Dec 17, 2015, at 2:30 AM, Rogelio Gudino <cananito at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Don’t mind at all! However, I did decide to go with a different strategy.
>
> What I’ll try to do now is extract the content (mostly HTML) out of the
> English ePub, do translation work directly on it, and finally re-package
> the content into an ePub (generate-epub.sh).
>
> The benefits of this approach:
>
> 1. Keeping the styling and formatting of the original ePub.
> 2. Pinpoint the exact changes of the English ePub every time it gets
> updated.
>
> Thanks,
> Rogelio Gudino
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Vinicius Vendramini <vinivendra at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a great approach. In any case, I guess the important part is
>> actually writing the translation - the resulting format is only relevant
>> once there is actual text to use with it.
>>
>> I’m creating a repo for a Portuguese (Brazil) translation:
>> https://github.com/vinivendra/the-swift-programming-language-portuguese-br
>> I’ll probably copy some of the structure you already created, for
>> practicality as well as standardization. Hope you don’t mind :)
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Rogelio Gudino <cananito at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I just started to look into this myself since I’m interested in doing the
>> Spanish translation. The first approach I’ll be trying is doing everything
>> in Markdown and compile it to ePub using Pandoc.
>>
>> Based on this article http://nshipster.com/colophon/ , Pandoc may be a
>> bit painful to use, but I’m only interested in translating if it can be
>> done collaboratively through GitHub, so I’ll still give it a shot.
>>
>> Here’s the repo I made for Spanish (Mexico)
>> https://github.com/Cananito/the-swift-programming-language-spanish-mx
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rogelio Gudino
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Vinicius Vendramini via swift-dev <
>> swift-dev at swift.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I just saw a tweet from Chris Lattner talking about translating the
>>> Swift Programming Language ebook. This is a project I’d be very interested
>>> in; however, I don’t really know where to start.
>>>
>>> Is there some kind of git repository, containing the original book, that
>>> I can clone? If not, does someone have any ideas on how to start a new
>>> book, imitating the original’s style? (Maybe using iBooks Author? I have no
>>> idea.)
>>>
>>> I thought this thread could end up being kind of a central starting
>>> point for any other translations that come up, so I’m searching for the
>>> best solutions here :)
>>>
>>> PS: Swift.org <http://swift.org/> recommends looking at an existing
>>> Chinese translation project (The Swift Programming Language (Chinese
>>> translation, GitHub project)
>>> <https://github.com/numbbbbb/the-swift-programming-language-in-chinese>),
>>> but since I have absolutely no knowledge of Chinese it’s really hard to
>>> navigate and understand that repository.
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>
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