[swift-evolution] [Review] SE-0159: Fix Private Access Levels

T.J. Usiyan griotspeak at gmail.com
Mon Mar 20 20:06:05 CDT 2017


+1

One less level to explain and not much lost in the shuffle.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Lucas Neiva via swift-evolution <
swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:

> I think it's worth simplifying the access levels by removing
> `fileprivate`. Changing `private` to cover the common file-level cases
> brings no disadvantages IMO, since there's always the option of moving a
> declaration to a separate file. (I seem to disagree with a lot of opinions
> on here, that seem to want more fine grained access level control. I just
> don't see much tangible benefits, as composing protocols with the current
> access control levels is enough.)
>
> I wouldn't do the compatibility mode since source conversion seems to work
> well enough. But I guess source compatibility is a hard goal.
>
> ---
>
> My main question with all of this: Why is `private` a "soft default"?
> What's the point of a "soft default"? I think it should be _the_ default.
> `private` as default would promote encapsulation. It also just seems to
> make more sense than defining `internal` as the default, which is the
> "middle one".
>
> On Mar 21, 2017, at 12:55 AM, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution <
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> The review of SE-0159 "Fix Private Access Levels" begins now and runs
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