[swift-evolution] Reduce with inout

Xiaodi Wu xiaodi.wu at gmail.com
Tue Jan 24 07:43:25 CST 2017


It's only verbose if the words aren't needed! The shortest way to describe
something with sufficient accuracy can never be verbose, let alone
undesirable, and I highly agree with this concern. We already have names of
this form, such as `FloatingPoint.init(signOf:magnitudeOf:)`.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 07:33 Matthew Johnson via swift-evolution <
swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:

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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Jan 24, 2017, at 1:54 AM, Chris Eidhof via swift-evolution <
> swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
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> I've thought about it for a few days, and really like
> `reduce(mutating:_)`.
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> I'm not a fan of this.  It reads in a way that makes it seem like the
> parameter should be inout, but it isn't.  A variation of reduce where the
> initial value parameter *is* inout is perfectly sensible (whether or not we
> want it in the standard library).  With that in mind, I don't think we
> should use this name.
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> Unfortunately I don't have a better suggestion.  I think it was Brent who
> suggested "mutatingCopyOf" which is more accurate, but also undesirably
> verbose.
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> I've updated the PR, and am now happy for this to go into review.
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> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/pull/587
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> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Russ Bishop <xenadu at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Jan 22, 2017, at 10:56 PM, Chris Eidhof <chris at eidhof.nl> wrote:
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> Not as a direct reply to Russ, but just to reiterate: to me, there are two
> clear benefits of using the `inout` version of reduce:
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> 1. The performance (currently discussed at length)
> 2. Readability (because we can use mutating methods on `inout` arguments).
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> Even if the compiler were to optimize the unnecessary copy of `return arr
> + [el]` away, there are still a lot of other mutable methods that you might
> want to use within the reduce closure. So I think the proposal is still
> very valid even if the compiler optimizations would magically appear
> tomorrow.
>
> To push this proposal forward a little bit, I'd like to come up with a
> good name. It seems like we shouldn't overload `reduce`, but choose a
> different name, so that we don't stress the typechecker. Any other
> suggestions?
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> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Russ Bishop <xenadu at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Chris Eidhof
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> Sorry for the derail!
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> reduce(mutating:_:) { } is still my favorite; You can take mutating to
> mean we will copy the value now but mutate it later.
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> Some alternatives:
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> reduce(forMutating:_:) { }
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> reduce(forInout:_:) { }
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> reduce(initial:_:) { }
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> reduce(copying:mutate:) { }
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> // just kidding...
> reduce(copyForLaterMutating:_:) { }
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> It should definitely be some form of reduce.
>
> Russ
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> Chris Eidhof
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