[swift-evolution] [Review] SE-0058: Allow Swift types to provide custom Objective-C representations

Kevin Lundberg kevin at klundberg.com
Tue Apr 5 19:57:55 CDT 2016


Generally I'm +1 on this, but I do have a concern. It's not made
explicit in the proposal, but I presume that this is meant to only be
available on Darwin, and not Linux or other platforms that don't have
swift using the Objective-C runtime? (Please correct me if I am mistaken.)

I ask because of the swift-corelibs-foundation project; Presumably once
that is complete for Swift 3, code that makes use of this type bridging
should be able to be run cross-platform. For example:

var a = [AnyObject]()
(a as NSArray).addObject(NSObject()) // should this work on all platforms?

swift-corelibs-foundation uses its own protocol named
_ObjectTypeBridgeable (defined here:
https://github.com/apple/swift-corelibs-foundation/blob/338f4bf3a89c75a0420b49f5701466e106af02b5/Foundation/NSSwiftRuntime.swift#L205)
to simulate what happens today on Darwin platforms, but there is no
language support for it so API consumers must explicitly call its
bridging methods. It would be great if corelibs-foundation (and any code
designed to work on Linux) could take advantage of this proposal to
provide the language support, and if the proposal as written is not
intended to have an effect on Linux at all, then I would suggest we
modify it so that the resulting implementation is not tied to
Objective-C and Darwin only.

-Kevin

On 4/4/2016 1:44 PM, Joe Groff via swift-evolution wrote:
> Hello Swift community,
>
> The review of “Allow Swift types to provide custom Objective-C
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